Are there any #biblical #scholars I'm connected to on here? I'm looking for the original word in Matthew, which gets commonly translated as "fulfilled" when referring to how Christ's birth (etc) fulfills prophecies.
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@eleanor Nope. But I can introduce you to colleagues on... wait, early christian? Nope, got colleagues in the department that study that, but I don't think they're on birbsite.
@DenubisX I don't suppose you have any colleagues who deal with other religions that look toward prophetic concepts?
@eleanor Yep. Again, birbsite, since no colleagues are on here, but let me see here... ... Darn. The person I was thinking of was dealing with something else.
Take a look at https://www.mqatthemuseums.com/schedule to see if any of the abstract titles interest you. I can provide e-mails.
Prof Tzvi Abusch looks like precisely the sort of person I should be asking for book recommendations, I would deeply appreciate contact information and the ability to say "@DenubisX recommended you as someone who might be able to help me"
I need to do more research into temple cults for an slightly related reason, anyway.
(this is the sort of thing I enjoy spending my summers doing; my husband is indulgently watching me squee around the house about all the cool stuff I've learned today).
@eleanor Ah, Sorry, he's not part of our faculty and he doesn't know my name. :)
Sorry :(.
Take a look at afternoon session 2?
I can introduce you to https://twitter.com/louloveshistory though?
@DenubisX Oh perfect! She probably knows a lot more about the concept of πληρωθη and a good deep-dive book about Assyrian temples!
@eleanor That I can do. Ping me on birbsite?
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@eleanor From what I can tell, Matthew uses "πληρωθη το ρηθεν", which literally means "it was paid for".
@noelle Fascinating! That implies it's more related to the COVENANT than "the prophet was correct" -- THANK YOU!
@hhardy01 oh my gosh thank you!!
@eleanor not exactly a scholar but here’s a great resource for finding Greek words used in the Bible. http://biblehub.com/str/greek/5055.htm
@eleanor I'm new to Greek, but what I'm seeing all over the place in Matthew is the word πληρωθῇ (ratify, fulfill, complete). I would pronounce it something like pleh-roth. But again, I'm no scholar :) That's from the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament.
@glherrmann Fascinating thank you!! The ratify connotation is one I hadn't come across yet.
@eleanor No problem! Sounds like legal language, right? I think that's because "the law" (as in, the laws given in the pentateuch) was literally a legal contract between God and Israel, saying "I'll take care of you, Israel, but you need to do these things". So Jesus is saying he came to fulfill/hold-up Israel's end of the contract.
@glherrmann The contractual nature of different religions' relationships with deity (particularly in the Mediterranean region) is something I've recently been made aware of, and it's super fascinating. With the Romans, frx, it was almost the opposite instigator as what I understand of the Jewish covenants -- a prayer was a contract offer, and if you got what you'd requested, you were then required to pony up whatever you'd offered.
Update: A friend-of-a-friend just mentioned that it ties into the #Greek concept of logos, which for my purposes puts the cart before the horse.
I'm less familiar with other prophecies in the #Jewish tradition. How is their "fulfillment" referred to in non-Greek languages?
#torah #tanakh #TaNaK